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Post by ojiveojive on Sept 30, 2007 23:18:47 GMT
I think amber meant my comment on the Blue Square North forum. Regarding the fixture change, I can easily get there but Strudwick, or as I referred to him on the BSN forum, "that f u cking s h i t head cocksucking arseplunger", should consider that the players are part-time and need to get time off work in order to travel. Please note: the term arseplunger is not at all meant to be derogatory but is used by many of my friends as a term of endearment, first introduced to me in 1983 by Harry Casey of KC and the Sunshine Band when I was his road manager and one of the few straights in the party. He would often greet me in his southern drawl with "Hi, assplunger, where we goin' today?". Daza, according to last year's fixture list you were due to play them at home on Saturday September 23rd so if you played them on a Monday, there must have been some reason for the game being rearranged.
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Post by samd on Oct 1, 2007 13:24:38 GMT
T'was an FA Trophy replay.
This sort of thing is always possible so you just have to get on with it - we usually end up with a few long distance midweek trips but we just grin and bear it.
Last season we had to go to Vauxhall on the second tuesday of the season for example.
Sure it seems like a stupid decision, but what's new?
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Post by malxscfc on Oct 3, 2007 12:22:47 GMT
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Post by malxscfc on Oct 3, 2007 12:57:39 GMT
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Post by samd on Oct 3, 2007 19:55:07 GMT
TO OJIVEOJIVE: You do have my sympathies, that's a goodly hike! Why is it whenever a club from the Midlands, North West and Yorkshire have to make a midweek hike they kick up a fuss about it as if they are the only side who've ever had to make such a trip. And yet ourselves, Barrow and Workington travel those sort of distances on a regular basis and we just get on with it? It's like these people are wanting medals for travelling. This season we will do 3892 miles for league games, Solihull will do 1999 miles. Get over it ffs
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Post by ambersalamander on Oct 3, 2007 20:32:42 GMT
Well said Scott! I used to enjoy travelling those sort of distances back in the Conference days. Yes it costs money, but why moan when other clubs are worse off?
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Post by ojiveojive on Oct 3, 2007 21:29:51 GMT
You have misinterpreted my moan. It isn't about money or myself, it's about the atrocious lack of foresight by the fixture meister. At this level nearly every club is part time which means that aside from the supporters for every distant midweek game the 16 players, the manager, the assistant manager, the physio, the kit man, the club officials all have to ask their employers for yet more time off work for what their employers probably regard as a hobby. I just think that when planning fixtures, and I used to have to plan the logistics of world tours so I have some idea of what I'm talking about, moving the fixture in question from a Saturday to a Tuesday night simply because the fixture meister had not accounted for the extra time needed to complete the end of season play-offs is incompetence of the highest order.
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Post by ambersalamander on Oct 3, 2007 21:53:57 GMT
Just so you know, my post wasn't directly in response to yours but to Scott's, because people DO moan about this when other clubs have it a lot worse. I just forgot to remind myself what the thread was originally about
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Post by samd on Oct 4, 2007 10:14:14 GMT
You have misinterpreted my moan. It isn't about money or myself, it's about the atrocious lack of foresight by the fixture meister. At this level nearly every club is part time which means that aside from the supporters for every distant midweek game the 16 players, the manager, the assistant manager, the physio, the kit man, the club officials all have to ask their employers for yet more time off work for what their employers probably regard as a hobby. I just think that when planning fixtures, and I used to have to plan the logistics of world tours so I have some idea of what I'm talking about, moving the fixture in question from a Saturday to a Tuesday night simply because the fixture meister had not accounted for the extra time needed to complete the end of season play-offs is incompetence of the highest order. Sorry, I've lost my violin. These are all obstacles we have to overcome on a regular basis. You might feel hard done to by this decision but for you it's a one off. If you want to avoid this sort of thing happening then you play in a local league. As I said, stupid decisions are very much part of football.
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Post by ojiveojive on Oct 4, 2007 12:53:27 GMT
Sorry, I've lost my violin. You might feel hard done to by this decision but for you it's a one off. If you want to avoid this sort of thing happening then you play in a local league. As I said, stupid decisions are very much part of football. So are stupid replies . Read again: It isn't about money or myself, it's about the atrocious lack of foresight by the fixture meister. I don't feel hard done by, I just think it's an incompetent decision. If you want to stop this sort of thing happening you use a modicum of intelligence, or a computer, when working out the fixture list.
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Post by samd on Oct 4, 2007 14:57:05 GMT
Sorry, I've lost my violin. You might feel hard done to by this decision but for you it's a one off. If you want to avoid this sort of thing happening then you play in a local league. As I said, stupid decisions are very much part of football. So are stupid replies . Read again: It isn't about money or myself, it's about the atrocious lack of foresight by the fixture meister. I don't feel hard done by, I just think it's an incompetent decision. If you want to stop this sort of thing happening you use a modicum of intelligence, or a computer, when working out the fixture list. If you don't want what you consider to be stupid replies then don't post on forums. We are involved in a league which covers a very large part of England. Such trips are at some point bound to pop up in a midweek slot. It's not possible to please everybody, who ever it is who compiles the fixtures has to take into account local derby's, distances, cup dates, etc. It's quite refreshing that it's Solihull travelling up on a Tuesday cos usually it would be the other way around.
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Post by ojiveojive on Oct 4, 2007 16:24:54 GMT
Never mind, you probably won't have so much travelling to do next season in the Unibond
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Post by samd on Oct 4, 2007 18:13:53 GMT
Never mind, you probably won't have so much travelling to do next season in the Unibond I'm pretty confident we will be in the Conference North still next season. Seeing what the sides immediatley above us are like (Solihull for instance) I know we can climb the table if we keep plugging away. Besides which you're the one with the travelling phobia, I enjoy away days. And it's not as if a return to the Southern league would exactly spare you.
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Post by DJhinckley on Oct 4, 2007 19:24:52 GMT
Why is it whenever a club from the Midlands, North West and Yorkshire have to make a midweek hike they kick up a fuss about it as if they are the only side who've ever had to make such a trip. And yet ourselves, Barrow and Workington travel those sort of distances on a regular basis and we just get on with it? I'll fu cking moan about it Scott, and Hinckley only have to go as far as Alfreton. I couldn't give a fu ck how far you travel each week, it's totally irrelevant to the point. If you want to point out how much of a martyr you are for travelling long distances each week scott, then it's totally wasted on me, as you well know. Distance is not the issue here. You've jumped in and got hung up about the distance and completely missed the main thing of the switch. Half the clubs in the league had the last four saturdays Home/Away/Home/Away. Now those clubs are going to have the last four Saturdays Away/Home/Away/Away with their final home game moved to a tuesday night. there are 5 games in April and half the clubs in our league will now have only one saturday home game, at the start of the month. Distance long or short, cashflow will suffer due to incompetence. you can whinge at how Solihull fans are fickle or whatever you want to call it, for not travelling to Blyth on a Tuesday night, but ultimately it's Blyth losing out on income, not the Solihull fans.
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Post by samd on Oct 4, 2007 20:25:23 GMT
Why is it whenever a club from the Midlands, North West and Yorkshire have to make a midweek hike they kick up a fuss about it as if they are the only side who've ever had to make such a trip. And yet ourselves, Barrow and Workington travel those sort of distances on a regular basis and we just get on with it? I'll fu cking moan about it Scott, and Hinckley only have to go as far as Alfreton. I couldn't give a fu ck how far you travel each week, it's totally irrelevant to the point. If you want to point out how much of a martyr you are for travelling long distances each week scott, then it's totally wasted on me, as you well know. Distance is not the issue here. You've jumped in and got hung up about the distance and completely missed the main thing of the switch. Half the clubs in the league had the last four saturdays Home/Away/Home/Away. Now those clubs are going to have the last four Saturdays Away/Home/Away/Away with their final home game moved to a tuesday night. there are 5 games in April and half the clubs in our league will now have only one saturday home game, at the start of the month. Distance long or short, cashflow will suffer due to incompetence. you can whinge at how Solihull fans are fickle or whatever you want to call it, for not travelling to Blyth on a Tuesday night, but ultimately it's Blyth losing out on income, not the Solihull fans. I couldn't give a fu ck that you couldn't give a fu ck Dave - seeing as apparantley saying the word fu ck is now officially popular again I may aswell get in on the act. Clever filter avoiding trick btw. Loss of income? Solihull/Moor Green only brought a handful last season and that was on a Saturday. If it was somebody like Nuneaton, Tamworth or Kettering travelling up I could understand your point. Wouldn't call Solihull supporters who don't make the trip fickle either (your words, not mine). And travelling is hardly martyrdom (again your words). Just seems some of us tend to get on with it whilst others kick up a fuss. Yes the sudden rearranging of the fixtures list is a mess. I've not said it isn't, the season is effectively cut short by a week and it would have been nice to finish our home campaign on a Saturday again. But what can you do other then get on with it? Check the thread title btw, you can't say distance isn't the issue when the thread title relates to having to travel a long distance midweek.
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