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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Apr 8, 2008 12:06:53 GMT
As there is debate and dirgery emanating all around, I thought we should consider this most important issue here too? Firstly, it would appear that the outcome of the Sweet FA Cup final has been pre-determined and the one thing to be resolved is whether the Welsh winners shoudl be allowed to pretend that they are English - and represent English teams in the UEFA cup! I for one hope that Pompey win and the whole debate crawls back up inside the ar$e from which it came  We have six teams, based in Wales (through no fault of their own; let's be fair about it!) who have taken the decision to play in the English pyramid, but have not affiliated to the English FA. I don't suppose that until this season, anyone at all was even mildly fussed about this; but there we are; six teams without a national affiliation. Harsh, but true. Funny how the debate is unfolding mind: The Welsh appear to be concerned about their own identity, I suspect that the FAW secretly is hoping that Cardiff get battered on the day - and no doubt, at the bottom of their argument is the fear that the Welsh pyramid might ultimately be subsumed. For some reason, Mr Platini appears to want the English FA to pretend that Cardiff in in England; while the English are all stiff upper - saying nothing for the time being. So. What's to be done then folks? Shoudl Cardiff become an English principality? Or should we leave the city as it is!? |
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Post by bh on Apr 8, 2008 12:31:09 GMT
What happened the last time Hereford or Shrewsbury won the Welsh Cup? Were they allowed to compete in the UEFA Cup? Can't remember.
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Post by Croc on Apr 8, 2008 13:13:38 GMT
What happened the last time Hereford or Shrewsbury won the Welsh Cup? Were they allowed to compete in the UEFA Cup? Can't remember. They weren't allowed to compete in the Cup Winners Cup. The UEFA place in an instance such as that went to the best performing Welsh club in the Cup - normally the runners up |
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Post by malxscfc on Apr 8, 2008 14:28:11 GMT
If Cardiff beat Pompey, why not let Pompey have a go at the Welsh Cup for once, with the £100,000 and place-in-Europe prize on offer?
Seems fair.
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Post by Matt - DTFC on Apr 8, 2008 15:56:55 GMT
My opinion is that of "f**k them". They knew exactly where they stood when entering the competition. It's only down to the highly bizarre circumstances (I mean seriously - who expected them to play well repeatedly?!) that sees them in the final. Now they have the chance to win they've decided to kick up a fuss. Well whoop-di-doo, they knew the rules so they should stick to them.
May my tongue go black for saying this but "Go Pompey". Now I feel dirty.
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Post by Sultan of Cannock- SRFC on Apr 8, 2008 22:12:20 GMT
Platini is an even bigger prat than Blatter and just likes to stir it because he is anti-English.  There was an excellent article in the Times by Martin Samuel a few days back where he pointed out several occaisions on which Cardiff have played the system to be either "Welsh" or "English" as and when it has suited them. Notably when they played Leeds a few years back and there were crowd disturbances including objects being thrown at Leeds players/officials. They managed to get the case heard by the FAW rather than the FA, thus ending up with a far lighter punishment. |
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Post by Giggy of Telford on Apr 12, 2008 21:45:06 GMT
What happened the last time Hereford or Shrewsbury won the Welsh Cup? Were they allowed to compete in the UEFA Cup? Can't remember. Shrewsbury is in fact in Wales, the rest of Wales won't admit it though as they don't want something as silly as Shrewsbury associated with them. Telford have won the Welsh Cup before but did not go into Europe, that said you didn't qualify for Europe by winning the Welsh Cup untill after they decided we were no longer elligible. |
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Post by DazaB_WCFC on Apr 13, 2008 0:39:16 GMT
What happened the last time Hereford or Shrewsbury won the Welsh Cup? Were they allowed to compete in the UEFA Cup? Can't remember. Shrewsbury is in fact in Wales, the rest of Wales won't admit it though as they don't want something as silly as Shrewsbury associated with them. As is Hereford. f**k 'em. Welsh Cup = No Europe for English teams so sod 'em. |
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Post by robotsmfc on Apr 13, 2008 22:26:46 GMT
All Liechtensteiner clubs play in the Swiss pyramid but are not allowed to use Swiss places in European competition; they have one place of their own for the winner of the Liechtensteiner County Cup. It would be a huge case of double standards if Platini was to force England to be represented by Cardiff City and yet Liechtensteiner clubs have no right to Swiss places and I can only assume that if the likes of Vaduz or FC Schaan were to win the Schweizer Cup then he would have to impose the same ruling.
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Apr 14, 2008 11:34:01 GMT
I think that about sums it up! And given the entirely Tinpot nature of footy in Lickthemsteins (?) I would suggest that we get on the case immediately and establish a foreign branch of TT.  |
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Post by bh on Apr 15, 2008 19:01:52 GMT
Thought so!! Thanks for the comments. So P----y for Europe. Will they let Harry in with his reputation? Mind you they let Venables in so............
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Post by davematthews on Apr 21, 2008 21:35:44 GMT
Well, I'm a bit late to this thread, it would seem. But in my defense I've only just joined today.
I'm English, living in Cardiff, supporting Cardiff City at Wembley in the final. There's a lot of anti-English chanting at Ninian Park - I hate it for all sorts of reasons, not least because it turns the English ref and linesmen against us. It's petty hatred from small minded bigots, and should be stamped out in the same way that other racist abuse has been.
The reason I mention it, is because it reminds me of some of the opinions expressed in the thread above. Why the hatred towards Cardiff and the Welsh? It's no better than the bigoted chanting at Ninian Park. How about good will to all men and all clubs? Whatever the nation?
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Post by ambersalamander on Apr 21, 2008 21:39:17 GMT
Well, indeed. Welcome to the forum, Dave: do you support a tinpot club too?  |
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Post by davetscfc on Apr 22, 2008 7:28:08 GMT
Will be the 1st Cup Final since discovering football at the age of 5 that I've got no interest in watching.  I want both teams to lose.  |
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Post by ojiveojive on Apr 22, 2008 11:58:16 GMT
Well, I'm a bit late to this thread, it would seem. But in my defense I've only just joined today. I'm English, living in Cardiff, supporting Cardiff City at Wembley in the final. There's a lot of anti-English chanting at Ninian Park - I hate it for all sorts of reasons, not least because it turns the English ref and linesmen against us. It's petty hatred from small minded bigots, and should be stamped out in the same way that other racist abuse has been. The reason I mention it, is because it reminds me of some of the opinions expressed in the thread above. Why the hatred towards Cardiff and the Welsh? It's no better than the bigoted chanting at Ninian Park. How about good will to all men and all clubs? Whatever the nation? Well said, sir, my wife is from Cardiff, my eldest daughter is a nurse living in Cardiff. I echo your sentiments entirely, besides Cardiff has one of the most interesting and beautiful city centres I've ever been to. (Looking over shoulder: "Is that alright my darling?"). |
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I want both teams to lose. 
