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Mar 2, 2006 21:09:26 GMT
Post by medibot on Mar 2, 2006 21:09:26 GMT
If we are talking good beers, something Ambersalamander found when she went to Sussex Uni and something i will enjoying tomorrow lunchtime before heading back home, Swan Old Ale. Brewed by the pub, dark in colour but tastes like something lighter, bit of a kick if you start getting stuck in over a few hours but there's nowt else like it and it is so tantalising near to me after lectures and work i have a fair bit of it Will also stop breifly on my way to Lewes next Wednesday yum!
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Mar 2, 2006 21:27:00 GMT
Post by frankiegth on Mar 2, 2006 21:27:00 GMT
Worst pint I've had anywhere bar none was in a pub called the Portland near Cambridge city's ground. It was so bad I actually left half a pint in the glass,unheard of. The beer at Bishops Stortford was quite appalling and expensive as well. Even those pale into insignificance though at the side of the drink I had at Worcester. Went to the tea bar. "Coffee and a bag of chips please" I asked. Duly got the coffee, added the milk and stirred vigorously,took it with the chips round to where we were watching the game. Sat on the terracing to enjoy. Took a swig, Uuuugh!! "What the F**K" I had to take another swallow to be sure. "Eeeagh",yes truly 'orrible stuff BOVRIL WITH MILK IN IT Not quite the hit that Lea & Perrins is I must say ;D
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Mar 2, 2006 22:55:30 GMT
Post by ojiveojive on Mar 2, 2006 22:55:30 GMT
Well I've got a bottle of 1982 Chateau La Dominique Grand Cru Classe St. Emilion, supposedly the best vintage of the 20th century, waiting for me birthday, only 20 days to go. Cost an arm and a leg in France, would probably cost a torso too over here.
I'm also partial to a decent pint of mild when I can get one - not that often - although I'm taken with Enville at the moment and Bombadier, too. I used to drink Worthington White Shield which had yeast in the bottle but I haven't seen it for donkeys.
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Mar 2, 2006 23:26:03 GMT
Post by coops on Mar 2, 2006 23:26:03 GMT
I'm also partial to a decent pint of mild when I can get one - not that often - What? You can't get a pint of Mild in Moseley? My local in West Brom has both Banks's and Hanson's, and a bostin' pint they are as well!
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Mar 2, 2006 23:51:54 GMT
Post by peekay on Mar 2, 2006 23:51:54 GMT
It's not on the list there but Guinness for me. I'm also partial to a drop of red wine. Particularly Rioja or a nice Zinfandel.
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Mar 3, 2006 8:59:59 GMT
Post by ojiveojive on Mar 3, 2006 8:59:59 GMT
The operative word was decent Coops. Yep there are plenty of places in the black country, Ma Pardoe's for example in Netherton often has several different milds but generally speaking it is difficult to get a good one in Moseley, even The Old Moseley Arms doesn't usually carry a mild. We mild drinkers are a dying breed, even the pubs that carry a few real ales rarely carry a real mild.
As for Rioja, Peekay, if you ever get the chance of a 76 or 78 take it, you won't be disappointed, whatever the price.
If you like brandy and find yourself in Italy may I recommend Stravecchia di Milano, nectar and only about 20 euros for a litre in the airport shops, when I discoverd it about 22 years ago it was about three quid a bottle including tax!
And another one, not a real ale but scrumptious all the same. Kimberley Dark, sold at Ilkeston's ground. I normally limit myself to one pint when I'm driving but having arrived really early, and figuring I wouldn't be leaving for about four hours, I ate loads of chips and allowed myself a second.
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Mar 3, 2006 18:02:07 GMT
Post by DJhinckley on Mar 3, 2006 18:02:07 GMT
**Alcohol snobbery alert** claxon sounds **Alcohol snobbery alert**
why do all real ale drinkers assume that because their favourite tasting drug is not a)mass processed or b)popular, that it is somehow better than any other form of alcohol. everyone likes what they like for whatever reason they like, and if it's fizzy pop alchol as opposed to alcohol with fingernails and bits of left over dog in, then there is no one drink better than the other.
my drug - Tea - is older than all your finger nail beers, so does that mean tea is far superior to all your beers put together? In my world yes, so stick your 'beer wi nowt taken owt' up your Arsenal.
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Mar 3, 2006 18:08:01 GMT
Post by Col ISIHAC. on Mar 3, 2006 18:08:01 GMT
**Alcohol snobbery alert** claxon sounds **Alcohol snobbery alert** why do all real ale drinkers assume that because their favourite tasting drug is not a)mass processed or b)popular, that it is somehow better than any other form of alcohol. everyone likes what they like for whatever reason they like, and if it's fizzy pop alchol as opposed to alcohol with fingernails and bits of left over dog in, then there is no one drink better than the other. my drug - Tea - is older than all your finger nail beers, so does that mean tea is far superior to all your beers put together? In my world yes, so stick your 'beer wi nowt taken owt' up your Arsenal. Er... Which tea would that be then DJ? are we talking single plantation or yer blended stuff. All about taste. The world might as well be flat if we're all going to like the same things! And does it matter
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Mar 3, 2006 18:26:00 GMT
Post by DJhinckley on Mar 3, 2006 18:26:00 GMT
yes it does hawky, erm isihac, there seems to be attached to a liking of so called Real Ales a snobbery that if you like other forms of alcohol then you are somewhat immature or a social status likewise. Take the poll, option 1 claims to be the 'genuine stuff', you yourself also give an example of this by claiming that no one drinks Carling to get p*ssed. Why is real Ale the genuine stuff? It's not, just slightly older than some other forms of Alcohol. All alcohol is as valid a drink as any other and I'm here to strike back for the drinks that alcohol snobs try to subvert on the basis that they don't contain at least 4 fingernails ppm...
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Mar 3, 2006 18:50:55 GMT
Post by J Esaj PRA on Mar 3, 2006 18:50:55 GMT
Hey, DJ! Was that load of gibberish purely designed to provoke a response from people or are you genuinely in the dark about the relative merits of beers? Real ales are frequently 'better' that mass produced beers in a number of areas. Mass produced beer is created from the cheapest ingredients available to a recipe deliberately intended to keep the product bland. The result is so poor that it frequently has to be sold super chilled to avoid people actually tasting it! Perhaps the best bit is that these low grade products are then sold to punters as 'premium' products and people are fooled by the packaging! Real ale, on the other hand, always starts from higher quality ingredients, which are then craft brewed to produce a wide range of unique beers. This isn't opinion; this is fact. Some people prefer the real stuff to the mass produced stuff and it's the opposite for others - so what? It's like the difference between a steak pie and a filet steak - the latter is obviously 'better', but people still like both.
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Mar 3, 2006 19:02:13 GMT
Post by DJhinckley on Mar 3, 2006 19:02:13 GMT
lets face it, it wouldn't be long before you got involved would it Jason. You see all that you just typed, that's common knowledge that is, so there really was no need to type it. that is a fact, correct. However the fact that it is crafted doesn't mean it is better. that is your opinion. my opinion is irrelevant, as my point is not whether it is better or not, but that real ale drinkers have this superiority complex over anyone that dares to suggest that real ale might not be the be all and end all of alcohol, which I might add you have just prooved for me thank you very much.
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Mar 3, 2006 19:26:40 GMT
Post by J Esaj PRA on Mar 3, 2006 19:26:40 GMT
You are missing the point, old chap. Real ale is not the be all and end all of alcohol and at no point have I said or even implied that it is. I've been served some utter garbage real ales (I've even drunk a few), where the brewery got it wrong, or the landlord couldn't look after it. In contrast, mass produced beers are almost always 'perfect'.
Which is really better? That is down to personal taste and I have no problem with people choosing whatever they want to drink, provided I also have a choice. That doesn't exactly equate to a 'superiority complex', does it? In what way can I make a judgement on a person based on what they're drinking?
Now, if you really do want to debate this further, you'll have to provide some criteria on which we can (attempt to) decide if real ale is better than mass produced beer. Or maybe you'd just like to tell me why my assertion that the real stuff was 'better' is wrong?
Oh yeah, if you don't want me (or anyone else for that matter) to 'get involved', why post your thoughts on a public Internet message board? Maybe you'd just like us to ignore everything you type?
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Mar 3, 2006 23:01:12 GMT
Post by coops on Mar 3, 2006 23:01:12 GMT
What a strange argument!
It's funny how lager drinkers and other non-real ale drinkers (including tea drinkers!) get very defensive when this debate starts up. If you like it, drink it, don't listen to anyone else!
It is true that some real ale afficianados can be very anal about the stuff, but for all the "tickers" there are just as many. like me. who simply like it because you get a range of different tastes.
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Mar 4, 2006 9:16:27 GMT
Post by DJhinckley on Mar 4, 2006 9:16:27 GMT
Oh yeah, if you don't want me (or anyone else for that matter) to 'get involved', why post your thoughts on a public Internet message board? Maybe you'd just like us to ignore everything you type? just highlighting the fact that you are colonel in chief of militant wing of of the Real Ale drinkers far right extremists factions.
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Mar 4, 2006 12:25:10 GMT
Post by ojiveojive on Mar 4, 2006 12:25:10 GMT
What a load of bollocks. Coops is right; if you like it , drink it, if you don't, dont. Its got bugger all to do with snobbery, everybody thinks that what they like is worthwhile or they'd all jump off bridges onto motorways in a fit of what's wrong with me? Me? I like different real ales, I like various wines, I like many brandies, I like different coffees. I've yet to come across any beer with four ppm fingernails, you fool, you've ruined your own argument by following that old line, although there used to be a cider pub in Birmingham in the sixties that definitely used to put rats in its barrels of scrumpy to give it more body!
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