EFMTFTV - SACFC
In the tea-bar queue
Wind Up Merchant and Splendid Fellow
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Post by EFMTFTV - SACFC on Mar 6, 2006 7:56:53 GMT
Now I'm a fan of our tone, and I should imagine all you Northerers love him because the welfare state is fairly generous but his comments about being judged by God were daft, We all know that George Bush is a religious nutter and is the most dangerous man on earth but I hoped that Tony was the slightly sensible one in their releationship. And don't all these muslim extremists use 'the will of God' as their excuse, so aren't they all the same? Discuss!
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Post by frankiegth on Mar 6, 2006 9:17:04 GMT
The "odrdinary workin' bloke" has no party to vote for now. It's either Tory with a blue rosette or Tory with a red rosette.
They all p*ss in the same pot and the pot gets emptied on the same people whoever is running the show.
I used to be quite a political animal but I've become disillusioned with our "democratic process"
Most ordinary people know what needs doing but, the parliamentarians are to removed from reality to even appreciate it let alone do owt about it.
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pies
Stale bacon bap
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Post by pies on Mar 6, 2006 13:08:42 GMT
I don't see what the problem is of having people who believe in God running the country, and openly admitting to it.
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Post by ojiveojive on Mar 6, 2006 13:22:13 GMT
I agree with you Frankie. My dilemma is that my MP Lynne Jones is one of the rebels. Should I vote for her knowing Tonto will see it as a vote for him and try to keep her in line "Hey, he voted for the party manifesto, not for you", or should I vote against my principles in order not to vote for Tonti.
I actually decided some time ago that I can't vote for my MP, even though I agree with most (not all) of the things she stands for.
And as for a god, well if I promise you eternal salvation will you worship me?
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Post by Giggy of Telford on Mar 6, 2006 16:17:36 GMT
I don't see what the problem is of having people who believe in God running the country, and openly admitting to it. Agreed, our government should not be decided by their religious beliefs. If he believes in God that's fine, I do aswell, I'd also happily have a prime minister of a different faith or an aetheist or agnostic. Providing they do their job and do not discriminate against others then its fine.
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Mar 6, 2006 17:14:51 GMT
If I read it correctly, the criticism comes from using religious beliefs as justification for doing something.
I'd prefer my democratically elected Government to use debate, expertise and common sense, rather than religious conviction, when making decisions that affect the lives of milions.
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samd
Steaming Bovril
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Post by samd on Mar 6, 2006 18:48:55 GMT
Using god as an excuse just highlights Blair's desperation.
I really don't understand this government.
They want to get people out of their cars and onto trains and yet they invest nothing in our railways and expect things to happen.
They harp on about renewable energy and yet have rejected an application for a wind farm in Cumbria.
They punish us motorists for their transport mistakes and when questioned they blame the Tories.
They introduce free travel for pensioners but fail to properly fund it.
This Government needs to go asap.
I'll keep voting Lib Dem cos I wouldn't vote labour or tory if you held a gun to my head.
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Post by frankiegth on Mar 6, 2006 20:39:55 GMT
Certainly political decisions should not be made one way or another on your religious beliefs. I mean what if when Tone snuffs it, it turns out there is no god and all he's got is a pine lid to look at for all eternity eh!! Where would that leave his Iraq war decision then.
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Post by ojiveojive on Mar 6, 2006 23:03:54 GMT
He won't be able to see it in the dark.
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Post by medibot on Mar 6, 2006 23:27:10 GMT
And he'll be dead, surely?
If you're going to have an afterlife it'd be pretty shabby if it only lasted as long as it took you to run out of air in the coffin!
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Post by frankiegth on Mar 7, 2006 8:14:54 GMT
Just a figure of speech "you're a long time looking at the coffin lid"
I personally believe when you pop your cloggs it's the same as before you're born.
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Post by ojiveojive on Mar 7, 2006 10:31:23 GMT
What, you're curled up in your mother's womb?
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Post by frankiegth on Mar 7, 2006 10:40:36 GMT
Alright then, before you're conceived you pedantic git.
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Post by ojiveojive on Mar 7, 2006 10:46:50 GMT
So, you're swimming round in your dad's bollocks, then?
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Post by frankiegth on Mar 7, 2006 10:56:03 GMT
Like I say, you pedantic git. ;D
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