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Post by amberaleman on Apr 8, 2009 12:18:09 GMT
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Post by ambersalamander on Apr 8, 2009 19:35:30 GMT
Oh... I want one!
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Post by amberaleman on Apr 8, 2009 20:37:32 GMT
I thought there was only one!
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davetscfc
Steaming Bovril
......and it's Salisbury City......
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Post by davetscfc on Apr 9, 2009 22:11:45 GMT
Thought this was one place I'd come and not hear the 'have you got a spare pound' jokes.  For the record though we haven't got huge debts, it's not like the Weymouth 'take over the club and the £500k debt that goes with it' situation. But we have a shortfall each month which the directors have covered for pretty much the last year but can't carry on juggling. Our chairman doesn't have a bottomless pocket, he's a local guy, ex-player, life long fan, went to the same school as a lot of us, who runs a (smallish) local business. He's doing this to try and get the right person on to carry on the job he started when he took us from near extinction 7 years ago. Unfortunately Salisbury isn't a football city, most of the locals still consider football to be for working class oiks. It's also wallows in apathy.  |
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Post by Sultan of Cannock- SRFC on Apr 13, 2009 6:38:07 GMT
Good Luck to Saisbury. We've been under a similar cosh at Stafford Rangers for some time now and feel your pain, little consolation though that will be for you...
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Apr 13, 2009 22:47:28 GMT
Why does sh1t happen to nice clubs?? If this is really how life at the BS Nat level works out, then I'm not sure I want to be a part of it. SCFC are set for their third season with the big boys and look where it's got them. How much of the problem is due to the increased cost of playing at this level??  |
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Post by Sultan of Cannock- SRFC on Apr 14, 2009 4:52:09 GMT
It worked out quite disastrously for us for a number of reasons.
1) Your playing budget has to be, i believe, kept within a limit proportional to the club's income. I think, therefore, that you would need to be getting crowds of 2000+ and/or have other legitimate sources of income in order to complete with the pro' sides up there.
If not, you are trying to swim upstream with one hand tied behind your back and the other holding a tennis racket from the off. For us it became a spiral of less entertaining footy+losing team = lower crowds = lower income = poorer players = less entertaining footy+losing team = lower crowds, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
2) If your ground is not fully up to scratch before you go up, you can fall into a similar trap as we did. Needing to increase capacity quickly when it looked as though we had a chance of going up a few years ago and fearing the approbrium that they would suffer if we missed out on promotion due to insufficient ground capacity, our board invested in the temporary stands that got us dubbed "Scaffold Rangers." These became a financial millstone (see reduced income above) and our situation became desparate as the company involved, Safestand, were apparently ready to send us into admin to get their money.
3) You are playing against full-time pros and this can put you behind the 8-ball straight away. I think an ex-Tamworth manager bemoaned the fact that they did not win a home midweek league game for some considerable time. He put this down to the fact that 9 time out of 10 the pro team had either stayed overnight or were able to travel during the day at their leisure, whereas his boys were more or less clocking off work then running straight out onto the pitch.
I came to believe that the set up was deliberately skewed to clear the part-timers out ASAP. For example, we had a midweek fixture away to Dagenham, which involved the players not getting back until 2AM the next day, not the best for our club captain, Wayne Daniel, who had a 5AM start at work. A few days later, 11 leg-weary heroes who had played out of their skins for a 1-1 draw got shellacked 4-0 at home by Tamworth. Why couldn't we have played Tamworth on the Tuesday and travelled on the Saturday instead? With hindsight would we have been better "sacking off" the dagenham game and concentrating on staying fresh in the hopes of taking 3pts in the next one instead?
4) The disadvantages of playing in a National Division at this level. It's a bit of a long haul, to say the least, for the likes of Salisbury and say, Barrow, to play each other in a league fixture.
I can't think offhand of another country outside of El Salvador that has 5 levels of national league. Even in Germany, they go semi-national/regional after their equivalent of our League One.
I've believed since starting to follow footy as an 8 year old back in the 1960's that the de-regionalisation of the old Third Division was a pretty bad idea.
IMHO, i always thought that to rectify the iniquities of the old re-election system for League and non-League alike, instead of forming a 5th national division (ie this bloody Conference) back in the 80's the way forward would have been to put the old Third Division back on a semi-national basis with two regionalised 4th Divisions feeding into D3N and D3S
Imagine if H & W had gone up this year, with Barrow staying up and Gateshead winning the play-offs. Now there's a couple of nice midweek away fixtures to savour!
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Post by ambersalamander on Apr 14, 2009 12:39:03 GMT
Thought this was one place I'd come and not hear the 'have you got a spare pound' jokes. We not joking. We're tinpot. Wish you the very best of luck in getting a decent answer to this mega-problem. |
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Post by amberaleman on Apr 15, 2009 11:22:00 GMT
I certainly wish Salisbury all the best.
The club is being open about its financial difficulties, and taking steps to address them before they can develop into a crisis. Many other clubs could usefully take a leaf out of that particular book.
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davetscfc
Steaming Bovril
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Post by davetscfc on Apr 18, 2009 7:34:46 GMT
I certainly wish Salisbury all the best. The club is being open about its financial difficulties, and taking steps to address them before they can develop into a crisis. Many other clubs could usefully take a leaf out of that particular book. Think that's right. Doing it this way the current directors can sift through the interested parties and (hopefully) hand over control to someone with the interest of the club and fans at heart. As opposed to letting the club slide into administration, and have adminstrators come in simply looking for the best result for the creditors. Seems to have been some positive interest at least. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/salisbury/8001540.stm |
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Post by ambersalamander on Apr 21, 2009 12:00:01 GMT
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