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Post by Giggy of Telford on Sept 3, 2009 22:48:46 GMT
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Croc
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Post by Croc on Sept 4, 2009 15:10:33 GMT
Farsley Celtic go out of business
Farsley Celtic have been closed down by their administrators, who failed to find any new backers for the Blue Square North club.
Celtic entered administration at the end of June because of mounting debts including a £200,000 tax bill.
Administrators Mazars said the failure of a consortium to buy the club back left them no alternative but to lock-up Throstle Nest and close the club.
The West Yorkshire club celebrated their centenary year in 2008.
Farsley got into financial trouble after selling a portion of their Throstle Nest ground but, as a result of the recession, have not been paid in full.
They avoided a winding-up order by HM Revenue & Customs over unpaid taxes by going into administration on 1 July, but faced the prospect of having no league to play in after the Football Conference deemed them ineligible to play in the Blue Square North because of the financial problems.
But a reprieve saw them start the season on minus 10 points, a deficit wiped out on the pitch during the first six games of the season as negotiations to find a buyer continued behind the scenes.
Robert Adamson, joint administrator and partner at Mazars, said there had been lengthy talks to try and save the club.
"Since Farsley went into administration we have held extensive discussions with a number of interested parties with the aim of selling the the club, working extremely hard to try and secure the best deal possible for both the creditors and the club," he said.
"We have been very appreciative of the continued full support of the board of directors, who from the start of the season have also assisted in ensuring that the ongoing trading costs were met each week.
"However, following the withdrawal of the consortiums offer, no viable alternatives remain and there is no-one prepared to continue to underwrite the trading costs. Very sadly, the only option now is to close the club."
Supporters Club spokesman Phil Morris told BBC Radio Leeds the loss of the club would leave a big hole in the local community.
"We're all a little bit stunned at the speed at which this has happened," he said.
"I don't think anybody was under any illusion that the club wasn't in a perilous financial position. (President) John Palmer has worked extremely hard in the hope of securing the club financially but unfortunately it wasn't to be.
"He above all others I suspect is the most devastated of the lot. He's absolutely heartbroken."
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Post by frankiegth on Sept 4, 2009 16:52:17 GMT
I enjoyed my one trip to Farsley, decent clubhouse and good bunch of supporters (who I feel for). I don't know what's gone off at farsley but usually at this level it's a combination of individual egos, over ambition, losing track of reality, greed or incompetence.
Of course it will mean (yet again) the team finishing third bottom of con north will get a reprieve (I assume).
Stop press: I understand they're going ahead with the game at Stalyvegas tomorra. What is going off, if this is true?
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Post by Meadow on Sept 4, 2009 17:19:46 GMT
'CLUB REPRIEVE (September 04, 2009)
A deal struck at 4pm this evening between John Palmer and the Administrators has offered a reprieve for Farsley Celtic who will now, after all, be able to fulfil their fixture with Stalybridge Celtic tomorrow at 3pm.
Palmer is believed to have entered a transitional agreement with Administrators Mazars pending the sale of the club with a new offer, involving new financial backers being considered.
John Palmer: " It has been a long 24 hours, but I am relieved to be able to confirm that, for the short term and until the sale of the club can be completed, I have received an offer of financial support which allows the club to continue to fulfil its fixtures. I am very relieved".'
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Post by Sultan of Cannock- SRFC on Sept 4, 2009 17:54:00 GMT
In out in out, you shake it all about.  This is one grim hokey-cokey that nobody wants to be in.  I never agreed with this formation of a 5th national division. Even Germany only has 3 while the likes of Spain and Italy regionalise at the equivalent of our League 1. When Farsley were up in the CONference along with us we faced some faced journies to places like Exeter and Ebbsfleet. Madness!   If i get the mind-control thing up and running and become dictator of this country i would definately be looking at two regional divisions feeding into League 1 then further subdividing down from there. |
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Post by frankiegth on Sept 4, 2009 18:05:32 GMT
In out in out, you shake it all about. This is one grim hokey-cokey that nobody wants to be in. I never agreed with this formation of a 5th national division. Even Germany only has 3 while the likes of Spain and Italy regionalise at the equivalent of our League 1. When Farsley were up in the CONference along with us we faced some faced journies to places like Exeter and Ebbsfleet. Madness! If i get the mind-control thing up and running and become dictator of this country i would definately be looking at two regional divisions feeding into League 1 then further subdividing down from there. What about Gloucester playing in the regionalised blue square NORTH. I mean, the place is renowned for it's cloth caps, whippets and you can't move for ferrets and pigeon lofts. ;D |
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Post by Sultan of Cannock- SRFC on Sept 4, 2009 18:28:47 GMT
That's exactly! This kind of anomoly is bound to spring up when When you start to semi-regionalise at level 6! i just don't believe that the clubs can afford this kind of travelling and it can't be good for part-time players either. It has to contribute to the fact that the fare put before us,( especially in Conny North where they must have a factory on the M62 somewhere churning out these cloned bouncer-esque "footballers" hoofing it around) is so poor |
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Post by robotsmfc on Sept 4, 2009 19:07:38 GMT
League 2 North and South
Conference North/South/Midland
West Country League/London League/Anglian League/Midland League/Northwest League/Northeast League
continue ad infinitum
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Post by amberaleman on Sept 4, 2009 20:26:33 GMT
Personally I'm a big fan of a national non-League division. It pits the country's top non-League sides against each other and produces a national champion at the end of the season. When Sutton were at that level, there was a certain fascination about travelling to exotic places like Runcorn, Boston and Stafford!
England is a smaller country than Germany and Spain, and the distances from north to south less than in Italy, so travelling is less of an issue. If clubs don't want the travelling that comes with playing in a national league they can always decline promotion (as Sutton did in 1985). In any case, most Blue Square Premier clubs are full-time these days - although that's a development I don't exactly welcome.
Things are looking a little brighter for Farsley this evening. I hope the club can find a way out of the mire.
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Sept 4, 2009 22:00:41 GMT
Without crying out for a subsidy of any sort; there are distinct advantages to being, say, in or around Brum as opposed to being in Cornwall or Northumberland when it comes to a national non-league division. The age old argument of a club like Torquay, Truro, Margate, say in terms of travelling the length and breadth of the country and being at a disadvantage while doing so is compounded by the more remote clubs being spurned by many fans of other teams when it comes to away games - as it's too fecking far / too expensive; so lower gates in comparison to clubs which are more central.
We can never have equality across a league at this level. The idea of a three-way split does have advantages - obvious ones while we are all clamouring for our game to be run sensibly.
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Post by robotsmfc on Sept 5, 2009 23:45:21 GMT
England is a smaller country than Germany and Spain, and the distances from north to south less than in Italy, so travelling is less of an issue. Denmark goes regional at tier 3 and it's much smaller than England. I think having so many national leagues helps the strength of the English game somewhat but it does put a lot of pressure on clubs. My almost not quite definitely not girlfriend supports Macclesfield who have one of the smallest fanbases in the Football League. As a result, almost all of their income goes into keeping the club going, with little aside for development or transfer money. If Macc struggle with gates nearing 2,000 one level above the Conference and with little difference in the standard of their squad (and hence wages), how can Farsley be expected to compete in the Conference with c.700 people turning up every fortnight? Of course, the counter-argument is that it's their fault for being there, and they could easily resign to regional levels or decline promotion. But is this a realistic or fair expectation. I think both systems have their advantages; it really is a matter of opinion rather than fact as to which is best. I think in Scotland they could to with regionalising the SFL to sort out their alleged rapid slide league standard. It makes much more sense for Stranraer's furthest journey to be Berwick rather than to Elgin considering the tinpoticy of the football at that standard, and with less money spent on travel, they could plough finances into improving the club's youth setup and indeed its squad. Of course, others may vehemently disagree  |
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Sept 6, 2009 9:18:29 GMT
Ooh, Scotland.
With crowds of fewer than 10k at SPL and fewer than many BSP sides once you hit Div 2, it's time that the whole thing outside of the Premier was regionalised. No wonder that qualifying for a major finals is a struggle!
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Post by ambersalamander on Sept 6, 2009 11:24:02 GMT
My almost not quite definitely not girlfriend That sounds intriguing  I did have an almost not quite definitely not boyfriend who supports Brentford, but he's decided to be my proper boyfriend now Anyway. I can sort of see both sides to this debate, having followed Sutton through regional, national and piss-poor leagues over the years. I did enjoy being in the Conference and liked being able to travel all over the shop, but look at what the pressures have done to so many clubs in the Conf - you can't feasibly survive without going full-time these days; clubs have tried a variety of different survival tactics, many of which have ended in disaster. Look at how many clubs there are in the Conference who were relatively recently quite successful League clubs: you won't find a lot of those any lower than the Conference, despite the fact that many have dropped several leagues. The Conference isn't really non-league any more. |
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Sept 6, 2009 20:54:43 GMT
I did have an almost not quite definitely not boyfriend who supports Brentford, but he's decided to be my proper boyfriend now Darling. Have you snared another? Is he Tinpot enough  Anyway. I can sort of see both sides to this debate, having followed Sutton through regional, national and piss-poor leagues over the years. I did enjoy being in the Conference and liked being able to travel all over the shop, but look at what the pressures have done to so many clubs in the Conf - you can't feasibly survive without going full-time these days; clubs have tried a variety of different survival tactics, many of which have ended in disaster. Look at how many clubs there are in the Conference who were relatively recently quite successful League clubs: you won't find a lot of those any lower than the Conference, despite the fact that many have dropped several leagues. The Conference isn't really non-league any more.[/quote] So true. Just the prospect of having to compete at BSP level leaves me fearing for the future of my lot - and we are as well prepared as any for promotion; but....  |
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Post by jimmythecuckoo on Sept 7, 2009 8:43:32 GMT
I agree with what you are saying. The Conference National was the holy grail for Terras fans. But all I saw was dire over priced football played by mercenaries who didnt give one for the club they turned out for.
And what a price Weymouth have paid for their participation in three seasons of Conference football...
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I never agreed with this formation of a 5th national division. Even Germany only has 3 while the likes of Spain and Italy regionalise at the equivalent of our League 1. When Farsley were up in the CONference along with us we faced some faced journies to places like Exeter and Ebbsfleet. Madness! 
