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Post by Sultan of Cannock- SRFC on Jun 27, 2010 19:26:19 GMT
Undone by the Germans yet again.  The first game to really hurt me was the 3-2 defeat against West Germany in the quarter-finals in Leon back in 1970, when we let a 2-0 lead go. For a brief second, before the realisation struck me that fat frank's goal was not going to be allowed, i had high hopes that after 40 years i was going to see the situation exactly reversed.  There were so many parallels with 1966 that i'd thought perhaps it might happen for us again. 13 of the 1966 final 16 were there, including North Korea for the first time since 1966. Just like 66, Mexico, France and Uruguay were drawn in the same group as the hosts. Brazil and Portugal were together, same as 1966, as were Spain and Switzerland and there was a repeat of the Portugal v North Korea 66 tie. Add a surly, disciplinarian England manager just like 66 and.....  I'd reckoned without how crap the so-called "golden generation" really are.  As David Mellor said after the last disaster in 2006, "What excuses can be made for these tosspots?" Curses foiled again!! |
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Post by frankiegth on Jun 27, 2010 20:43:24 GMT
Given the way the game panned out I'm glad we lost 4-1 rather than perhaps 2-1 and it would have been a case of we wuz robbed and the cracks would have been "papered over". As it is the reallity is out there for all and sundry to see, England are just not good enough and until the premiesh1t is given less importance we'll continue to be third rate.
Club or country? Country everytime for me
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Post by ifreakinrule on Jun 27, 2010 21:59:48 GMT
England are just not good enough and until the premiesh1t is given less importance we'll continue to be third rate. yeah, england were world beaters before 1992. |
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Post by bh on Jun 28, 2010 7:11:07 GMT
I gave up when the second went in what a shambles. Turned to the cricket, only to watch England try to grab defeat from the jaws of victory. Well at least they won and are an unassailable 3-0 up in the series, something for us English to cheer.
Also we have to drivers at the top of the Formula 1 Championship, and an English golfer won an obscure (to me) golf match.
Things aren't that bad.
English football needs a good clear out starting at the top with the FA!
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Post by frankiegth on Jun 28, 2010 11:35:29 GMT
England are just not good enough and until the premiesh1t is given less importance we'll continue to be third rate. yeah, england were world beaters before 1992. No, they weren't but, most of the players in the top flight were eligable to play for England; a situation which has got worse since 1992 and will continue to until things change. |
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Post by Sultan of Cannock- SRFC on Jun 29, 2010 17:13:53 GMT
Don't people realise that the Premiership is not England's national league? It is an international competition played out between franchises located on English soil!!!! What put the tin-hat on it for me today was seeing a list of the stats so far, such as goals scored, shots on target etc. The only England player to get in to the top 10 of anything was Emile Heskey who was second in ........(drum roll frankiegth please) ....the number of times caught offside! ;D Even there, we finished second-best to Germany as the table was topped by frog-eyed Turkish-Kraut Ozil..... |
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Post by medibot on Jul 2, 2010 10:41:55 GMT
Özil caught offside because he's too quick to get forward, Heskey because he's too slow to get back!
Hopefully England will have the balls to move on to a younger side and cast off the older players.
They won't though. Obviously.
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Post by thevicar on Jul 2, 2010 11:44:18 GMT
yeah, england were world beaters before 1992. No, they weren't but, most of the players in the top flight were eligable to play for England; a situation which has got worse since 1992 and will continue to until things change. Looking at the whole 'we should be playing more english players in our English league argument' I kept thinking of Wales. They're doing really well after all. Perhaps it wonuld be more interesting to look and see if we can produce the depth of talent through actively making sure our good players go and play somewhere else - anyone think the Spainish, Italian or German leagues aren't capable of breeding good youngsters? The fear of the foreign rather limits our gameplan to the frenetic premiership approach that hasn't really served us well. |
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Post by frankiegth on Jul 2, 2010 16:35:01 GMT
THE MOST RADICAL WAY FORWARD would in my opinion be to have a "team England".
The FA set up a team/squad and are run as a seperate entity altogether, players will either play for England because they want to, or they play club football. Team England would be able to deal with other teams like any "normal club" and be free to play any number of international friendlies and games against clubs worldwide at their leisure.
This would do away with the eternal club/country debate and the farce of unavailable players for friendly games,and also player burn-out (if there is such a thing). Obviously funding could be an issue but isn't that a way of football life. Of course a whole youth programme would be in place to support such a team.
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Post by robotsmfc on Jul 2, 2010 19:59:52 GMT
That might actually be a really good idea, Frankie.
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As David Mellor said after the last disaster in 2006, "What excuses can be made for these tosspots?" 
