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Post by stretfordendling© on Oct 16, 2006 18:58:10 GMT
My friend up in Manchester has offered me his brothers season ticket to use for the Manchester Derby on 9th December. As Hayes have a very important match on that day ( ) I don't really wanna go. Any thoughts?
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Post by ambersalamander on Oct 16, 2006 19:14:05 GMT
Er...don't go?
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Post by stretfordendling© on Oct 16, 2006 19:16:07 GMT
So you don't know who we're playing then?
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Post by ambersalamander on Oct 16, 2006 19:21:27 GMT
No you buffoon... don't go to Manchester! You don't get hugs there.
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Post by stretfordendling© on Oct 16, 2006 19:23:43 GMT
You get something that hurts!!
Yay hugs from Ambersal!!
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Oct 16, 2006 20:04:13 GMT
My friend up in Manchester has offered me his brothers season ticket to use for the Manchester Derby on 9th December. As Hayes have a very important match on that day ( ) I don't really wanna go. Any thoughts? Stephen, mate. It's easy. Just Say No! Now. This problem of yours??
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Post by amberaleman on Oct 16, 2006 20:14:41 GMT
You get something that hurts!! Yay hugs from Ambersal!! Be warned, Stephen! Last time I tried to hug Ambersal she took evasive action and I ended up with my arms round a prickly bush! (OK, I was slighty p*ssed at the time. ) I'm sure someone else will use that Manc season ticket. And you'll probably get another opportunity to use it. Ha-yes v Sutt-on has to take priority!
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Post by frankiegth on Oct 16, 2006 20:47:29 GMT
Stephen, do as your conscience dictates. Do you watch "your team" or two sides of over paid prima donnas that represent Mancland. No contest my owd.
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Post by coops on Oct 16, 2006 22:16:27 GMT
I don't see a problem. Unless you are a glory-hunting closet Manure fan that is??
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Post by medibot on Oct 16, 2006 22:43:39 GMT
I think it's more that the Manchester derby is one of the premier sporting clashes this country has to offer and he'd be a fool to miss it.
That said, i still don't see the problem. I'd rather see Sal that United v City.
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Post by stretfordendling© on Oct 16, 2006 22:44:56 GMT
I'm a 17 year supporting manchester united fan!!! I resent it when someone accuses me of glory hunting.
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Post by DazaB_WCFC on Oct 17, 2006 0:53:26 GMT
I'm a 17 year supporting manchester united fan!!! I resent it when someone accuses me of glory hunting. And would they interest you if they had been Division Three wannabee tinpotters all your life???
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Post by martello on Oct 17, 2006 12:45:45 GMT
Although southern-based Man United fans are always going to cop it from other supporters, I think what Stephen met was that he has been supporting them for 17 years - i.e. going back to 1989 when Fergie was on the verge of the sack as they were a mid-table team going backwards. Then Stephen came along, and bang! Lee Martin scored the winner in the FA Cup final replay v Palace, they went on to win the European Cup Winners Cup in 1991, their first league title in 26 years in 1992 and then became the dominant force in the English football for the next decade. Any Arsenal, Liverpool or Man City fans - blame Stephen! ;D Unless you get into non-league football very early (normally taken along by a friend or relative), it's almost inevitable that growing up your first exposure to football will be the top division or a glamorous FA Cup game on TV. The first game I remember watching was the 1992 FA Cup final - Liverpool v Sunderland. I was 7. Liverpool won, I started following them. I quite liked Dean Saunders as a player and when he joined Aston Villa that summer, I decided - in my pre-teen naivety - to switch to them. Best and worst decision I ever made. Best because Villa - although I've never lived further north than Dartford in Kent - are at their best a fantastic club with loyal support and a great history. At their worst, they are very very frustrating! Circumstances dictated I didn't discover tinpot football until the mid-1990s. I was born in Dartford but moved to Eastbourne when I was 5 (in Sept 1990). So no chance of getting interested in Dartford or even Gravesend and Northfleet at that stage (although my dad, being a Kent man, is a somewhat lapsed Gillingham fan). And I didn't get into football until May 1992. Handily, we'd moved into a house just a five-minute walk from a fairly tinpot club - Langney Sports. Being a young 'un, my attention could rarely hold for a full game of tinpot football but my dad and I often walked to Priory Lane to see the second half from the top of the grass bank behind one of the goals. I didn't know who played for Langney - never knew who they were playing against. I have vague recollections of their FA Cup tie with Kingstonian - then one of the top non-league sides around - in 1993, which went to two replays. An amazing achievement for a club of Langney's size. The first match programme I bought - and therefore probably the first time I paid to get in from the very first whistle - comes from March 1997. A County League match v Saltdean United. And rather like Stephen's effect on Man United, my presence sparked Sports into life. They went on a fantastic Cup run in 1998 (beating Berkhamsted Town and Harrow Borough on their way to the fourth qualifying round for the first time - beaten 7-0 by Worcester City. Grrrr! ). Then they appointed ex-Hastings boss Garry Wilson - and the rest is history. A Sussex County League title, and promotion to the Southern League, in 2000, a name change to Eastbourne Borough in 2001, a second promotion to the Dr Martens Premier in 2003, another step up to Conference South the next season, and almost capping an incredible five-year ascent from County League to Conference by reaching the Conf North/South play-off final in 2005. Because of our rise up the pyramid, we too now have our own tinpot glory-hunters - waverers who might previously have popped along to Eastbourne Town or United or even Hailsham, but now enjoy the better standard of football on offer at Priory Lane. I'm proud of the fact that I began following them just before the success. But yet I still retain an allegiance to Aston Villa. I'm delighted to see Randy Lerner - or indeed, anyone but Doug Ellis - in charge and am very proud of the fact that the man best qualified to manage England is in fact the Villa boss. I'm also chuffed with our good start. And while I'd love to see Villa get back into Europe, my priorities lie with Eastbourne Borough. And yes, I have seen Villa both home and away - although I made a conscious decision not to go to Villa Park with Ellis in charge. If I can find the time and money I'd like to give them my support again soon. So it is possible to be extremely tinpot and partly proper at the same time. A NLL (non-league lifer) to use a Confguide term. I'm a NLL and proud. I thankya! *stands down*
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Post by ojiveojive on Oct 17, 2006 13:21:49 GMT
I made a conscious decision not to go to Villa Park with Ellis in charge. Me too, in 1983. Both my parents come from literally two roads away from Villa Park, one of my uncles was on their books in the early 1930s until they wanted to send him out on loan, at which point he gave up football and never worked again, finally expiring about ten years ago in his eighties. In 1983 I was running the first ever open air show at Villa Park with Duran Duran, Robert Palmer and a couple of other acts that I can't even remember now. Having been there for three weeks preparing the ground, putting in extra toilets, having a stage built, blah de blah de blah, etc., two days before the show, all the profit from which was going to Mencap, a certain person ventured into my miniscule office beneath the North Stand and announced that he wanted me to let my boss in London know that unless an extra £10,000 was transferred into the bank that day, he would cancel the show. We obviously had a watertight contract and the show went ahead but I vowed not to go back to Villa Park whilst Ellis was in charge and apart from my dad's 80th birthday in 1995 I kept that promise.
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Post by martello on Oct 17, 2006 16:09:48 GMT
I have no doubt that Ellis did a lot of good for Aston Villa too, and started to open his chequebook toward the end of his reign there (it's not his fault that when he gave a certain manager some money, he spent it on Bosko Balaban!) but he became the club and that is not a good thing. Naming a stand after yourself, when still alive, sums it up really. I'd probably have no problem with one being named after him now he's not chairman, but we've had it 10 years already. And to be fair to Ellis, his last act - appointing Martin O'Neill - was a stroke of genius, but it perhaps owed more to the fact he knew his time was coming to an end and he wouldn't have to work with him.
Lerner seems to have done his research on the club prior to buying it and wants to let O'Neill get on with it, which is more than Ellis ever seemed to do with his managers - Gregory walked out because of interference and Graham Taylor hinted at it when he left.
I'm happy with the league positions of both my teams at present, which I haven't been able to say for a while.
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