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Post by malxscfc on Oct 17, 2007 19:37:18 GMT
...and no, I'm not talking about the disk-like object you chuck around; call "athletics"; and get a Government Grant for... Okay. It's been mooted, and laughed at. But would it be total madness for Sutton united to make an approach for this maverick Non-League leg-end? The bloke's record is alright. Like Marmite, he makes as many friends as enemies, but my limited experience tells me that the bloke is enormously passionate, knowledgable and necessary for NL football.... He had a run-in with one of our most prominent fans during a game 3 years ago, and those two heavyweights were best buddies 20 minutes after the final whistle. On the other hand, he's so ambitious he wants to remove him/his team from Non-League and get the hell out of its tinpottedness. Or so an article (I can't find...) said, last May. He's a great motivator, and a great organiser of a team. Speaking as a Salisbury fan, I still feel slightly guilty beating Braintree in the PO Final last year. They were marginally better, but we were the ones with Matt Tubbs on the day!  Georgey can work miracles with the basic clay he has. And yet I know his ambition does demand as high a budget as he can blag. And THIS, I think, may be the stumbling block for his move to GGL. Even if he's relatively local. Bloke's a nutter, but at the same time, satisfyingly legendary. What was the recent quote after his sacking? Not verbatim, but something like: "I'm not dead, my wife and kids aren't dead. It could be worse" ;D  |
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Post by ambersalamander on Oct 17, 2007 19:45:13 GMT
No thank you. We need someone with some of his attributes certainly, but his reputation isn't one I'd like to have at our club.
He'd need a lot more money than we have anyway.
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Post by malxscfc on Oct 17, 2007 20:01:37 GMT
No thank you. We need someone with some of his attributes certainly, but his reputation isn't one I'd like to have at our club. He'd need a lot more money than we have anyway. But he's sort of part-time, since he has another job... His Non-League contacts must be second-to-none. |
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Post by ambersalamander on Oct 17, 2007 20:03:08 GMT
Which is why he won't end up here!
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Post by malxscfc on Oct 17, 2007 20:12:45 GMT
Which is why he won't end up here! A venerable old Surrey Club with a lovely ground and a legendary Cup pedigree, and a large local population ready to come back on board? Good burgers too, from what I've seen...  |
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Post by votp on Oct 17, 2007 20:50:21 GMT
A venerable old Surrey Club with a lovely ground and a legendary Cup pedigree, and a large local population ready to come back on board? FGS, don't bring Wimbledon into this.... |
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Post by medibot on Oct 17, 2007 22:36:13 GMT
haha, have you been to Wimbledon recently VotP?
Nobody gives a flying f**k about football in Wimbledon the town.
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Post by malxscfc on Oct 18, 2007 8:00:33 GMT
Nor tennis, for that matter...  The other upside for Sutton right now is that BTFC appears to be splitting at the seams. Many of the players and fans are loyal to Borg (the magnificent Oli Adedeji for one). Presumably some of the players will just stay put, and most fans just stick with the establishment. Either way, I'd expect them to be a rather rag, tag and bobtail outfit which turns up at GGL in 3 weeks time. |
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Post by pies on Oct 18, 2007 10:40:34 GMT
A venerable old Surrey Club with a lovely ground and a legendary Cup pedigree, and a large local population ready to come back on board? FGS, don't bring Wimbledon into this.... Almost right, untill you said lovely ground. The Cherry Red Records Fans Stadium @ Kingsmeadow isn't lovely. As for the Borg, whereas his record is rather good (albeit with teams with a big finacial backing, relativly speaking) his reputation isn't. Football wise he may be a good appointment, but i doubt our board would have him as their 1st choice. |
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Oct 18, 2007 14:01:09 GMT
Borg's tactics are as unappealing as his behaviour. Sutton are, morally speaking, angelic in the football world - a board of directors who hate upsetting people? Let GB in there and he'll be running the place before you can say "Look, there's a fat tw*t of a manager in the home dug-out" The also like to play footy nicely; which is sad, because nice teams don't seem to get out of this league (with SCFC the recent exception I must add). Can't see it happening. Can't see me visiting GGL as a neutral again if it does!  |
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Post by malxscfc on Oct 18, 2007 17:58:12 GMT
Can't see me visiting GGL as a neutral again if it does! Yowch! That's pretty damning stuff! Tbh, though, everyone who meets him once the whistle's gone is always charmed by him, and merely senses the serious passion behind his antics. And he usually wins over the floating voters in the fanbase, wherever he goes. I just remember what a fantastically tight, well-organised Team we encountered in the PO Final last year. That's the way a Manager ought to be measured, surely? And a shame Adedeji's gone - at least for Iron fans. He was far and away the best player at Broadhall Way in May last year....  I think in part it's a case of 2 ethoses [Amber? Plural of ethos??] meeting with a bang. George has a Pro ethos, and wants to win at any cost. We all love Sutton because, in the way you outlined, their ethos is rather 'nice, decent and amateurish'. [Sorry.... ] There's nothing about Sutton I've seen in the last 2 seasons that looks exactly ruthless or ambitious, tbh. I suspect their Taz would agree with me on that, even if no one else can bring themselves to. I guess it's about what you want from your Club/lifestyle. |
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Post by ambersalamander on Oct 18, 2007 18:58:37 GMT
No, I agree with that as well. The view of our board appears to be that we can't afford to be ambitious.
But how can you build up the resources to do so if you're not ambitious?
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Post by malxscfc on Oct 18, 2007 19:15:18 GMT
No, I agree with that as well. The view of our board appears to be that we can't afford to be ambitious. But how can you build up the resources to do so if you're not ambitious? It's a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, at least that's the way SCFC's been going. Once you taste a bit of success, people start queuing up to invest and sponsor. And so it goes on. Certain Managers have a cachet and a charisma and name which they can employ to increase the off-field support, and which is directly fed in to improving what goes on on the park on Saturday. We're currently enjoying the up-side of this effect at Salisbury. Sure, we know it can't always go on, but EVEN a temporary injection of juice is exciting, and will help us to cement ourselves in the local conscious. We're ambivalent about where we'll be in (say) 2010-2015, but for the time being we're enjoying the ride! |
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Post by ambersalamander on Oct 18, 2007 21:40:46 GMT
Like when we won the league and went straight back down again? |
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Post by bh on Oct 19, 2007 5:53:08 GMT
Can't see me visiting GGL as a neutral again if it does! Yowch! That's pretty damning stuff! Tbh, though, everyone who meets him once the whistle's gone is always charmed by him, and merely senses the serious passion behind his antics. And he usually wins over the floating voters in the fanbase, wherever he goes. I just remember what a fantastically tight, well-organised Team we encountered in the PO Final last year. That's the way a Manager ought to be measured, surely? And a shame Adedeji's gone - at least for Iron fans. He was far and away the best player at Broadhall Way in May last year.... I think in part it's a case of 2 ethoses [Amber? Plural of ethos??] meeting with a bang. George has a Pro ethos, and wants to win at any cost. We all love Sutton because, in the way you outlined, their ethos is rather 'nice, decent and amateurish'. [Sorry.... ] There's nothing about Sutton I've seen in the last 2 seasons that looks exactly ruthless or ambitious, tbh. I suspect their Taz would agree with me on that, even if no one else can bring themselves to. I guess it's about what you want from your Club/lifestyle. |
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