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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Jul 4, 2006 1:35:39 GMT
Come on. I mean, even I watched the full 90, plus the extra 30, plus the painful predicatability of England facking up a penalty shoot-out. As did Mr Meds and he's Welsh for heaven's sake  (Apart from the bit where he fell asleep, that is!) Where's the full blooded cut and thrust then. I seem to remember pontificating upon my own personal view that we England were not quite good enough - are you all in agreement or just in a state of shock. My own personal tip, Les Bleus! are still there. Playing poo - and winning games. Not quite like watching England...  |
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Post by ojiveojive on Jul 4, 2006 8:52:40 GMT
Copied this over from Heroes and Villains: The penalty was apparently disallowed because the ref HADN'T blown his whistle and we all know what a play actor Ricardo is after his shenanigans in the Euro 2004 quarters. I'm of the opinion that at penalties, if the keeper isn't ready it's his own fault, he bloodywell should be. Yes, Rooney should have had a foul, in fact probably three for the same incident, however that doesn't excuse him standing on the guy's knackers followed by raising both arms to push Ronaldo away which is what got him the red card. I agree with you, coops, regarding Sven's squad. I also believe he's tactically inept at international level. Not having any decent fit strikers was unforgiveable, as was sending Defoe home. Taking Joe Cole off was stupidity of the highest degree, he and Ashley Cole were working together brilliantly and Joe can always come up with something outstanding. It meant Gerrard going to wide left which isn't his best position and restricted him from foraging forwards as much as he should have been. A better move would have been to take Lennon off, play Jenas up front (bags of pace and a bloody good shot) and sacrifice Hargreaves for Carrick playing the linking role, freeing up Lampard and Gerrard to go forwards. But then what the eff do I know? Italy v France for the final, Italy winning 1-0. Ronaldo breaking his leg in the semi ;D Jurgen Klinsmann awarded Freedom Of Berlin and had his air miles doubled  |
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Post by luvlydory on Jul 4, 2006 9:56:17 GMT
Come on. I mean, even I watched the full 90, plus the extra 30, plus the painful predicatability of England facking up a penalty shoot-out. As did Mr Meds and he's Welsh for heaven's sake (Apart from the bit where he fell asleep, that is!) Where's the full blooded cut and thrust then. I seem to remember pontificating upon my own personal view that we England were not quite good enough - are you all in agreement or just in a state of shock. the debate seems to be over in heroes and villians care of wayne rooney thread title. why play lennon just to sub a sub ? he didn't do much if anything and then got subbed just so carragher could take a penalty that wasn't allowed. it was a stupid circus to watch, with unfit players, un-necessary antics, a biased sh1t ref and wrong decisions. BRING BACK COLLINA |
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Jul 4, 2006 10:04:47 GMT
the debate seems to be over in heroes and villians care of wayne rooney thread title. Is it? I'll go see.  PLC would have hanled the whole game differently. One booking for diving, and that would have been that. No silly play acting... |
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Post by Sultan of Cannock- SRFC on Jul 4, 2006 10:46:11 GMT
It's difficult to say much without becoming open to the charge of whingeing, etc.
However, whatever happened to the so-called FIFA directives which were supposed to punish "simulation" and urging a ref to book an opponent with a yellow card? I had to do a double-take several times to see a) which colour shirt was the ref wearing and did he have real cards b) whether the Portugal players had actually taken the field in snorkel and flippers or not.
So we move on. Normally i'd support the Italians as i 've usually done since 1970 but i'm so fed-up of their corruption scandals and their cheating against the US and Aussies that i'm backing Germany.
In the second semi it's got to be the frogs over the hogs, then Deutschland uber alles in the final!!
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Post by ojiveojive on Jul 4, 2006 12:45:28 GMT
PLC would have hanled the whole game differently. Only because we weren't playing in Turkey, do you not remember Rushtu's drop kick on Defoe I think it was? Not even a word from PLC  |
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Jul 4, 2006 20:11:05 GMT
 Found this on the Satanage forum. Please don't ask what I was doing on there - but seeing as we have signed most of their defence in the close season, it was probably the least I could do for them... ;D |
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Post by luvlydory on Jul 4, 2006 22:27:37 GMT
PLC would have hanled the whole game differently. Only because we weren't playing in Turkey, do you not remember Rushtu's drop kick on Defoe I think it was? Not even a word from PLC that's my point (partly), he only puts up with minimal crap from players poncing about and then he gets all serious and starts lying down the law, it usually depended on how early in the game it was or how serious the event. I am not saying he was without his faults, he is after all only human but he was respected enough by all to know they couldn't push their luck. he was also the best ref ever. in my opinion anyway - not that it counts for much. |
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Post by ojiveojive on Jul 4, 2006 22:56:43 GMT
Your opinion's worth as much as anyone else's. I, too, regarded him as The Guvnor until that incident, but then I suppose that if he'd sent the Turk off for the second worst assault ever by a goalkeeper (Harald Schumacher's downing of the French guy in '82 being the worst) then there may well have been a riot. Incidentally Schumacher went unpunished, too.
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Post by luvlydory on Jul 4, 2006 23:05:24 GMT
I think he explains it in his book but I can't remember what he said. I have to find the book first. having a terrible memory is bad enough but moving house and not knowing where anything is does not help. |
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(Apart from the bit where he fell asleep, that is!)
