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Post by frankiegth on Nov 11, 2006 11:47:33 GMT
In school these days? My 17year old daughter, today asked me why the rememberence day flower is a poppy. MAD. Not at her but the educational system for yet another failing in it's duty of teaching important history lessons.  |
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Post by ambersalamander on Nov 11, 2006 12:35:40 GMT
I would agree Frankie, but equally you could argue: a) why does she need to know that and how is that relevant/important to her life? or b) that's a cultural lesson that she'd be expected to pick up from family/friends. I wouldn't argue that myself, because I think cultural stuff should be a part of growing up at school.
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Post by frankiegth on Nov 11, 2006 13:07:10 GMT
I must admit it took me by suprise because I'm sure I must have told her myself in years gone by.
It is important because it's still (just about) in living memory, which to me makes it recent history, and, history is what we have to be aware of and learn from so that hopefully we can all avoid making the same mistakes again. But, mankind being mankind invariably doesn't learn from the past and ends up cocking it up one way or another.
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Post by pies on Nov 11, 2006 18:09:50 GMT
To be honest, the significance of the poppy for remembrance day was never actually explained to me in School or anything, (even in Uni, where my degree was History), but fortunatly there were other outlets which explained it to me. Did anyone else have a minutes silence before there game today? I don't remember it happening when the 11th of November has fallen on a matchday before. With the impending passing away of the last of the soldiers who went through hell on earth for WW1, hopefully remembering the sacrifice made by all soldiers for everyone of us will become more important.
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Post by Giggy of Telford on Nov 11, 2006 18:38:15 GMT
We had a minutes silence before the game today, I can't say what happened 6 years ago (when 11th November last fell on a Saturday) as I didn't follow football then, i do remember however that at my karate club (saturday mornings, stopped going few years back due to ill health, keep meaning to go back) we all stopped what we were doing at 11:00 for a silence.
We were told about the importance of poppies as a symbol at school but that was in primary school, seeing as I'm now in my first year of college that's going back a fair bit, I remembered it but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot people in my year-group didn't know. In my opinion the humanities in general as subjects seem to be being neglected more as time goes on, particularly History & RE. I haven't taken any of them to A-Level having chosen maths & sciences instead but I think they are an important subject.
In the same way I think that WW1 and other wars are a crucial part of our history, not for being great achievements but for being mistakes that we should learn from but never seem to, also for the brave people who died as a result.
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Post by frankiegth on Nov 12, 2006 11:33:17 GMT
A minutes silence was impeccably observed at Hucknall.
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Post by medibot on Nov 12, 2006 23:58:17 GMT
Sadly some people at Sutton thought it was far more important to carry on ordering their food  |
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Post by pies on Nov 13, 2006 13:17:52 GMT
Not forgetting the nimwits near me who were laughing and joking amongst thereselves throughout (albeit very quietly, and very much amongst themselves)
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Post by medibot on Nov 14, 2006 0:39:52 GMT
Met a man who was part of 2 Para and fought in the Falklands in the pub today and moaned about such things with him so it's out of my system for another year.
But really, ONE f**k**g MINUTE to ponder why you're still about, not that much to ask surely?
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