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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Feb 8, 2007 13:32:26 GMT
For trying ever so hard to tap into the sympathy vote; all because a club official made a rickets of a transfer. They aren't the first; won't be the last and cannot expect special treatment! [ftp]http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A19610110[/ftp] Added because yours truly has been 'avin' his say on the matter!
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Post by Giggy of Telford on Feb 8, 2007 14:43:41 GMT
Still though, 18 points has got to hurt!
Then again it happened to Altrincham last season and they finished bottom because of it, even if they were later reprieved.
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Post by malxscfc on Feb 8, 2007 16:32:44 GMT
It is a bummer for them, but it's happened before and it'll happen again. The FA have to stick with their rules, and apply them to all. DaveT and I have been saying that it's overdue for the FA to produce a Transfer/Signing software program, to be given to each registered Club, so that these little irregularities would be taken out of the sphere of human error. They could have an online download service, to be used whenever you are changing a player. That way it would be bang up-to-date. In time, without doubt, all player dealings will be done online anyway, so why not at least make a first step? I know that anything involving the FA is prone to hilarious catastrophe, but in a way this centralisation of the process would put the onus on the FA to get things right, and they would carry the can for any irregularities in THEIR system. P.S. No prize, but can anyone suggest a suitable name for FA-produced software? ;D How about "FA kall" ? or "FA rce"?
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Post by peekay on Feb 8, 2007 18:10:02 GMT
FAtal error has occured. This program will shut down. ;D
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Post by ambersalamander on Feb 8, 2007 20:09:29 GMT
Can't believe they think they've got something to moan about. It's unfortunate, yes, but it would have been avoided if they were more careful. And following events in the last few years, I would have thought they would have been more careful. Thus I have no sympathy whatsoever. Have they been avoiding all the non-league news since they were formed, or are they simply too arrogant to think it would ever happen to them?
Sutton have never been involved in anything like this, simply because the club is well run by people who support the club and we have a fantastic secretary who really knows his stuff. Just because another club doesn't bother checking things properly, why should I have any sympathy?
It's their responsibility to know and follow the rules. If they break them, they get punished. And that's the end of it.
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Post by malxscfc on Feb 8, 2007 22:31:35 GMT
FAtal error has occured. This program will shut down. ;D ;D Or maybe 'FA riah Alam' 'Course, down ere in Wiltshire ther only Fariahs we get iz them what puts shoes on 'orses. [I felt obliged to Google her name as it's a spelling with much scope for variation, and funnily enough I found this story I was unaware of. www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news1.shtmlIt's a very odd world we live in. For the sake of veracity and credence, it's a shame the camerawork of this well-planned scoop failed to capture a single credible image of the woman's face. But that doubt aside, it's unlikely to be faked, so I guess I have to still marvel at how interesting other people are! ]
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Post by Col ISIHAC. on Feb 9, 2007 17:05:14 GMT
Is it not ironic that your average non-league fan could run his or her club through a season or several on Footy Manager; fro the comfort of the living room (or wherever the PC lives) and not come up against this problem? Agree that there MUST be a simple solution and that technology has it. One national database, that's all we need.
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Post by coops on Feb 9, 2007 21:58:59 GMT
I've got an idea, it's revolutionary but it might just work.
When a club signs a player they could ask him if he has ever played in another country, if the answer is yes then they can make sure he's cleared to play in England!
What do you think?
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Post by DJhinckley on Feb 10, 2007 1:07:46 GMT
Basically a player has a small passport sized booklet, lets call it a 'passport'. Every time he registers with a new club, whatever level, whatever league, that club places a stamp of some sort in this booklet. When he leaves this club another stamp is placed in the passport to indicate an end to his registration with that club. The carrying and maintainance of this booklet is the responsibility of the player. These details can be held on a central system but the passport itself should be enough for the system to work. It would then be simple enough for any club to examine to see if the player is still registered with any previous club, therby eradicating the need for international clearance at all! All players then have a 'passport to play' moving between teams just as passports are used for moving between countries. tinpotterrace.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1145545085&page=2#1145644935possibly Wimbledon feel that they are above the laws of the game because they have a few fans, or that there were no non league clubs before them, so they must make up the rules as they go along? I prefer to see the laws applied as they were intended. A disproportionate punishment? Not at all, merely enforcing the laws in full. If AFCW don't know the laws than I suggest they stop looking at league two and concentrate on where they are now.
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Post by coops on Feb 10, 2007 10:26:49 GMT
Thanks for the link Sal, fascinating to note that attitudes appear to have changed somewhat on here and elsewhere, back then me, Jase and Roofless were swimming against the tide of righteous indignation.
I see no petitions to give AFCW their points back, in fact I see a fair bit of gloating across the forums, is this a sea change in attitude or just an AFCW thing I wonder?
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Post by ambersalamander on Feb 10, 2007 10:31:16 GMT
Me? I never posted a link, guv!
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Post by coops on Feb 10, 2007 11:09:17 GMT
Me? I never posted a link, guv! Your right, it was DJ! I hadn't had enough tea.
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Post by medibot on Feb 10, 2007 13:47:51 GMT
Should be interesting today, Bromley fans rumoured to be bringing Wales flags It happens to be my dad's job to control the police operation there today, normally this consists of watching the game and going home, today though... Two of the biggest contingents of idiots, together, with more reason than normal to cause trouble. Could be an interesting one!
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Post by J Esaj PRA on Feb 12, 2007 12:48:32 GMT
I love the way so many people have changed their tune on this issue since last season...
I also love the way people keep mentioning a 'national system' to track player movements, be it a 'database' or a paper system. You are all living in cloud cuckoo land if you think this is something the FA could implement at the drop of a hat. How much time, effort and money does the UK passport system cost to run, or the benefits system, or the NHS system? The FA would be required to implement a system on a similar scale - who is going to pay for that?
BTW, the FA (and the Conference) do have electronic systems for transfers.
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Post by coops on Feb 13, 2007 9:20:50 GMT
I love the way so many people have changed their tune on this issue since last season... Yes, when it was poor Altrincham there were petitions and everything, are AFC Wombledon really that unpopular?
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