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Post by Giggy of Telford on Dec 8, 2006 17:57:47 GMT
We brought Lee Moore in on loan for a month from Tamworth. He was a big hit at the New Bucks Head and Tamworth didn't need him so he then went on to stay for 2nd and 3rd months. As that was as long as we could keep him on loan we then tried to sign him, he was on contract however and Tamworth didn't want to let him go for cheap. We offered £3000, they wanted £5000. Moore publicly said he wanted to stay with us. We agree that he is worth £5000 but then Tamowrth decide he isn't for sale. We were left with no choice but to let him go back, we missed him against Radcliffe on Saturday (1-1 draw) and Moore was on the bench for Tamworth. He then appeared at training last night, the players thought we was saying his goodbyes but then revealed that a deal had been made. Tamworth had let him go for £5000, a record fee for us (only our 2nd ever but still a record.....it beat Steve Foster's £3000 +£2000 if he scores 20 goals.) It was mentioned on Buckschat (AFCTU fans forum) last night but I wanted to wait until it was official before saying anything. A great signing for us; always plays excellent, gives 100% every game, popular with fans, players and management alike. A great player to have at Unibond level. Worth every penny. Moore has signed an 18 month deal. Shropshire Star (local newspaper) also mentioned something about a pre-season friendly in there. www.telfordutd.co.uk/show_news_item.asp?id=2397 |
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Post by ifuckingrule on Dec 8, 2006 23:56:37 GMT
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Post by coops on Dec 9, 2006 0:13:12 GMT
You've landed a good 'un there Giggy, well you know that already!
He wasn't quite ready for The Conference and I suppose it would have been unfair to make him warm the bench each week, we haven't got a reserve team.
Part of the deal is a friendly at Telford aparently, could be an excuse for a Tinpot Tour!
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Post by Giggy of Telford on Dec 9, 2006 2:32:54 GMT
Actually we're not financially much better off than most teams in the Unibond. We get large attendances which bring in a lot of money but also have high upkeep costs. There are teams in the league with more cash to splash about than us(Guiseley/Fleetwood/Gateshead). You've landed a good 'un there Giggy, well you know that already! He wasn't quite ready for The Conference and I suppose it would have been unfair to make him warm the bench each week, we haven't got a reserve team. Part of the deal is a friendly at Telford aparently, could be an excuse for a Tinpot Tour! At Unibond level Lee is a quality player. At only 20 years old he has plenty of time yet, hopefully will grow alongside AFCTU. Am I correct in saying you signed him for free anyway? If so then you've done well out of this, £5000 better off than before.  Worcester did it the wrong way around with Jai Stanley, signing him for £10,000 but then he moved to Telford for free.  By the way Daza & Co, Stanley's doing well at Telford now he's settled in. When he started it was clear he had the ability but didn't seem to battle for the ball, seems to have improved vastly though now he's learning the Unibond way to football (obviously not as nicer footballing league being a league lower but a more physical game), scored a great goal at Marine. |
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Post by ifuckingrule on Dec 9, 2006 12:26:44 GMT
Actually we're not financially much better off than most teams in the Unibond. We get large attendances which bring in a lot of money but also have high upkeep costs. well, most teams in the unibond dont spend £10K a decade on players, nevermind 2 strikers in a season. if you're no better off than other clubs then you're on course for doing a telford utd. |
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Post by Giggy of Telford on Dec 9, 2006 20:15:20 GMT
Unlike the old chairman (Andy Shaw) we spend money when we can afford it, the old Telford payed ridiculous transfer fees constantly and offered wages you'd expect in League 1/Championship football. As the fans own the club rather than having a rich sugar-daddy we can't just ask for money and spend it whenever we want. All money we do have is earned through various fund-raising schemes being planed constantly by the trust board which are based around forming ties with the local community and the council.
I've actually just came back from the supporters trust AGM. This year we managed a very modest profit. The board are taking into account how much money we have and then giving as much money as can be given as and when it's needed. Obviously we have more money than some teams in the league but teams such as Guiseley, Fleetwood & Gateshead have a millionaire chairman who can pay for everything. they're obviously better off than us.
Sorry but I get worked up when people claim we're a money bags team, we recently had a player switch to Bromsgrove (division below us) as they could offer more money than we could. We've alos missed out on signing players because they come along expecting us to pay high wages, they make a ridiculous wage demand so we have to say no. It's a reputation we could do without because we just couldn't live up to it.
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Post by ifuckingrule on Dec 10, 2006 21:29:17 GMT
Sorry but I get worked up when people claim we're a money bags team how many other teams in our division have spent £10K on players this season. its a fact that you lot are spending big money to win the division. |
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Post by Giggy of Telford on Dec 10, 2006 23:44:24 GMT
The other club pay spend money with big wages, we couldn't afford some of the wages other teams in this league pay, we'd rather save it for occasions when a wothwhile player is found. Foster has proved his worth with 15 goals already. We payed more thasn we wanted to for Moore but we wanted him to sign, he desperately wanted to come here, that was the best we could manage.
Like i said, some clubs pay outragious wages compared to us at this level or lower, we bring in players instead by offering the atmosphere the NBH brings, a lot of our players are on lower wages here than they were at their old club. I'm not saying that saves an entire £5000 but we keep wages at reasonable level and even sent a player away for asking for more than we could give.
Money comes in from the supporters trust which finds ways to bring in extra revenue by attracting families (children becoming future fanbase and backbone of the club) or bringing people who wouldn't normally bother with football for other activities but still raise essential money.
We try and raise extra money though off the pitch activities, there was serious talks on whether we could spare the money for the fee. In the end we decided we could manage it. Before then there were several offers to run a collection at a match, most fans seemed keen to pledge a fiver or tenner if i would get us the player. That wasn't needed in the end though.
Any extra revenue is brought in by the fans, high attendances and large stadia also bring much higher running costs though and as our owners (the fans) aren't multi-millionaires it is a fine balancing act. Plans are currently to build finances to the level at which we could compete at Conference North level if necessary next year with the long term plan over the next few years to be ables to compete near the top of that/hold our own should we reach the conference national in the next 5 or so years.
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Post by coops on Dec 11, 2006 15:13:38 GMT
My advice would be to stop rising to the bait this naughty person is dangling Giggy!!
It's a fact of life even down in the lower divisions that the clubs with the cash are going to do well, witness the West Midlands League Division One, last season Darlaston finished rock bottom of it, got taken over by a local businessman with a bit of a wad, nicked Great Wyreley's manager and half their players (Great Wyreley have since folded - ho hum!), and are now top and on their way up.
I'd rather a club did it Telford's way (spend money raised by their large fanbase) than, say, Fleetwood's way (spend a millionaire's cash).
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Post by malxscfc on Dec 13, 2006 22:51:11 GMT
My advice would be to stop rising to the bait this naughty person is dangling Giggy!! It's a fact of life even down in the lower divisions that the clubs with the cash are going to do well, witness the West Midlands League Division One, last season Darlaston finished rock bottom of it, got taken over by a local businessman with a bit of a wad, nicked Great Wyreley's manager and half their players (Great Wyreley have since folded - ho hum!), and are now top and on their way up. I'd rather a club did it Telford's way (spend money raised by their large fanbase) than, say, Fleetwood's way (spend a millionaire's cash). Agree. You don't always get promoted just on "love of playing the game", after all. If you spend a 'bit' more than your rivals, they all label you as Moneybags. Then when in the higher League you blend in with all the others. Last year in the Southern League WE were called Moneybags, and used to get heartily fed up with the tag, since we knew the reports were exaggerated by every opposition team - inevitably - about 3 days before we played them. While walking across Gloucester, from Station to Ground, the estimate/gossip on our wage bill magically rose twice as we drank in Pubs ever nearer to their City Stadium Ground.... Yet since Promotion, we don't even seem to come close to some of the higher spenders in the Conf South... |
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Post by Giggy of Telford on Dec 14, 2006 16:32:37 GMT
You're both right and should we win the league it won't be a label we keep in the conference north. It is however annoying to be seen as the league's big spenders when I can think of 3 teams off the top of my head with more money than us. Especially since I've seen last years accounts, we made a profit but not a very large one, admittedly we lost a fair bit paying up a manager's contract when we sacked him followed by him still threatening us with an 'unfair dismissale claim (what was unfair about it? we were 21st out of 22 teams!) Though he didn't stand a cat in hell's chance with such weak claims we agreed an undisclosed settlement to avoid getting a reputation for it.
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Post by malxscfc on Dec 19, 2006 21:45:55 GMT
You're both right and should we win the league it won't be a label we keep in the conference north. It is however annoying to be seen as the league's big spenders when I can think of 3 teams off the top of my head with more money than us. Especially since I've seen last years accounts, we made a profit but not a very large one, admittedly we lost a fair bit paying up a manager's contract when we sacked him followed by him still threatening us with an 'unfair dismissale claim (what was unfair about it? we were 21st out of 22 teams!) Though he didn't stand a cat in hell's chance with such weak claims we agreed an undisclosed settlement to avoid getting a reputation for it. Not having a dig at all, but since we're ALL guilty of saying "X United always has more money than us", how can you be sure that 3 other teams actually have more spending power? I just ask, because we suffered unjustly from the 'Moneybags' label last year, when we weren't spending anything like the money discussed. THAT much I know. But I can't claim to know how much anyone else was spending. And unlike with Limited Companies, there doesn't seem to be a database where you can check up on their latest accounts. The one Team you can rely on in the Conf S is Eastleigh, who seem deperately and gibberingly delighted to boast in all the local media about their spending...... [Which reminds me! Since Eastleigh IS a Ltd Co., I must remember to check out their accounts when next published!  ] |
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Post by Giggy of Telford on Dec 20, 2006 1:22:38 GMT
I can see what you're saying but the giveaway for the 3 teams I mentioned is they were bought out by a millionaire who can afford to invest money in there. Admittedly Guiseley have been investing more in their off the field stability and expansion rather than paying a lot of money. Being owned by a millionaire however does mean they can afford to spend more money than we can. A lot of our players have also admitted to having lower wages here than at their old club.
A moneybags team also usually gets their money from somewhere. Examples being Man U or Chelsea who litterally do buy success. Any money we have is made by the hard work of a lot of individual fans, the supporters trust (which I'm a member of) and I think the Vice-President's Club raised most of the money for the transfer fee. One thing that's definite is that when we get money it's because of a lot of work going on behind the secenes all year round. We are working just as hard fir the money we get as any other team at this level, probably a fair bit harder than others.
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Post by ifuckingrule on Dec 20, 2006 21:24:48 GMT
afc telski
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Post by malxscfc on Dec 20, 2006 21:40:15 GMT
I can see what you're saying but the giveaway for the 3 teams I mentioned is they were bought out by a millionaire who can afford to invest money in there. Admittedly Guiseley have been investing more in their off the field stability and expansion rather than paying a lot of money. Being owned by a millionaire however does mean they can afford to spend more money than we can. A lot of our players have also admitted to having lower wages here than at their old club. A moneybags team also usually gets their money from somewhere. Examples being Man U or Chelsea who litterally do buy success. Any money we have is made by the hard work of a lot of individual fans, the supporters trust (which I'm a member of) and I think the Vice-President's Club raised most of the money for the transfer fee. One thing that's definite is that when we get money it's because of a lot of work going on behind the secenes all year round. We are working just as hard fir the money we get as any other team at this level, probably a fair bit harder than others. Good points well made. Thing is, though, a millionaire could be reported as "supporting a certain Charity", but that might mean he puts a tenner in the collection tin at Christmas, and works on their organisation and efficiency and profile the rest of the time. It's not always just about the money. Your comment throws up a dozen other interesting questions..... |
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Worcester did it the wrong way around with Jai Stanley, signing him for £10,000 but then he moved to Telford for free. 
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